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Brent Smart

CMO at IAGSydney

As CMO at IAG Insurance, ex-CEO at Saatchi & Saatchi New York and with 3 coveted Gold Effies under his belt in the last two years, Brent Smart knows how to change the fortunes of businesses from the inside out.

In this episode, Brent shares how he’s taken NRMA Insurance from the 36th strongest brand in Australia to the 3rd, highlighting that with the right strategy, structure and use of technology, even the most mundane of brands can be exciting enough to sit right at the hearts of the everyday consumer.

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Transcript

I’m Brent Smart, I’m the chief marketing officer at IAG.

Before this, I spent 20 years in the advertising business. I was CEO of Saatchi & Saatchi New York before coming back to Australia and taking the CMO gig at IAG.

Client side marketing has changed massively and I think it’s interesting you're now seeing more and more people like me, from a creative background, coming into client side roles, because creativity is no longer a nice to have, creativity is a must have.

We need so much more content to really feed our social networks and our own channels, and so most marketers today are making way more stuff than they used to. Gone are the days of making 30 pieces of content and running it all year. We really need to think about multiple pieces of content, across multiple platforms, and really think about how we make the content fit the platform. So as a marketer, you’ve got to be much more of a maker, you’ve got to really be passionate about making content and building a team that's able to make content. We can't just rely on outsourcing it to our industry partners anymore, like the old days.

I think another disruptive force marketers need to get their head around is the idea of brand purpose. We have a whole generation of consumers who are demanding that brands do good. And I'm really passionate about that. I worry about the planet that we’re leaving to my kids and so as someone who runs a big brand with scale that can make a difference, I feel like it's my responsibility to make sure we’re a purpose driven brand. And the way we think about that on NRMA insurance, our biggest brand, as we've just seen the worst bushfires we’re ever going to see in this country last summer and we've played a massive part in rebuilding a lot of those homes. But how do we also take a real strong position on climate change and help customers be more prepared for these climate events that are going to happen more and more into the future? And we take that really seriously at IAG. How do we make the world a safer place? That's our purpose.

When I was building the marketing structure at IAG, it was very clear to me that we needed three capabilities. For the first capability, I wanted to have world class brand management, the kind of brand management you would find at Procter & Gamble, not an insurance company. So we built a really strong brand management and then turbo charged it. I think in today's world, an awesome strategy is awesome content, so I set about building strategic capability in my marketing team, hired a bunch of planners from agencies and not to replace what my agencies do, but to give them the best briefs they've ever had.

On the content side, I really wanted to make sure we weren't just a marketing team, but we were a making team, we were able to make a bunch of content ourselves. That we were able to put things out to the world really quickly, that we really had more of an editorial view of the world than just a marketing view. So I hired someone from the world of publishing and media to head up our content team and we've built a really amazing content capability, that includes having an in-house agency that's able to make a whole bunch of different assets and things we need.

But really importantly I never believed that in-house agencies would replace what my agencies do. So they’re there to do a certain type of work, work that's really important for our business but the top level work, the work that really builds our brand, the work really gets in the culture, the work that makes our brands famous - I don't believe I'll ever be able to do it myself.

So when we built our in-house agency, we made the decision to embed talent from one of our agencies, as opposed to us hiring the talent, and again that's based on my belief that the agencies are able to attract better talent. Also, FTE budgets are constantly under pressure in big corporates so if you go an hire all those people they become of your FTE budget, but if you embedded agency people, it's actually part of your agency, production, media budget, and I've found I can have more flexibility with that budget than I can with my FTE budget.

So technology obviously impacts everything we do now in marketing, but I think too many marketers have gotten caught up with the technology and put the technology first, whereas we are definitely an ideas first marketing team. I believe that technology just enables ideas doesn’t replace ideas.

That said, we've got a big installed customer base and we are thinking a lot about how we provide a more personalized experience to those customers? Which means we need to have great data tools and we use a lot of the Adobe tools and really thinking about a personalised experience based on your relationship with us, based on some data signals we might be getting on your behaviour, but ultimately I think we need to remember personalised crap, is still crap, it doesn't matter that it’s personalised. You still need an idea at the heart of it. You still need to make this an experience worthy of the customer's time and that's why we tend to be idea first not technology first.